Gotta be two-sided though. For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. Dont worry brother[.] They do not teach the love of God, nor the love of neighbor. Its destructive and wrong. I stand by that judgement, and, Marshall appears to imagine that the Superiors General should react to their complex situation with the subtlety of some Hollywood action-hero: an attitude, in fact, completely at odds with the historical reality of Archbishop Lefebvre himself. Its practically sedevacantist.. (4:38 PM), People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. Cuz the Church wont clarify. St Paul of Tarsus fought to the death with half the people who crossed his path and he was a very, very great Saint indeed. I don't know what happened first, but since then, what little I have listened to from Dr. Marshall, Voris, and Gordon since then has not mentioned each other by name at all, telling me that things might not be so amicable. Ronald L. Conte Jr. Neutral and objective. He didnt. There are two hawks in LaBelle. Everyone KNOWS what the modernists were trying to do. Petty, self-serving, vindictive, egomaniacal acts like releasing sensitive private 411 about my household. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable. Too many apologists are gurus with groupies. Line by line commentary by Dr Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. As Faramir says of war: sin makes corpses of us all. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. R4R is going to settle the debate in the coming weeks. Thats my ecclesiastical position. Shock horror. Too many apologists charge ridiculous amounts to come and speak at parishes and conferences. He injects these fascinating interviews with his own distinctive blend of depth and levity. by (. No particular deference is due to him (think Protestant). Many of you are followers of Dr. Taylor Marshall's podcast series on YouTube, and are familiar with Tim Gordon, who co-hosted with Marshall for the . Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall. The example shown by so many conservative Catholics is gravely immoral. Marshall has been openly critical of Bishop Robert Barron's promotion of the Balthasarian thesis of the possibility of universal salvation. [15] His 2019 book, Infiltration, claims to demonstrate that, over the last two centuries, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church has been actively subverted to promote Freemasonic power. Reactionary Infiltration of Taylor Marshalls Book, Traditionalism vs. Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. I heard he was mad about some of them, have helped you (by Gods grace) to decide to, , or better understand some doctrines and, Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. The above three dogmas are well-established in Church teaching. Thus, when there are disagreements, how can two mini-popes with their little online fiefdoms resolve a difference? That was the emotionally charged testimony of a 26-year-old woman, in the jury trial of 34-year-old Timothy J. Gordon, who is charged with two felony counts of aggravated sexual abuse, for two. They put their faith in strong men. What would a resurrection of men look like? Dont worry brother, No worries at all. When they reach the seventh accusation against Pope Francis, Marshall again accuses the Pope of heresy. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn. For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. Garabandal: Are the Prophecies About to be Fulfilled? 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Acta non verba. Not just VC2. It is sheer blatant hypocrisy for him to also say that no one can judge the Pope. Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. Timothys brother David (words in purple below) apparently started the current controversy with this tweet: This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. Traditionis Custodes: Sky is Here After Four Months! Hence, we will see divisions and in-fighting amongst the reactionaries when one makes a move further right, because being a reactionary is all about being ones own pope (the more so, the more influential and famous one becomes within the movement). (1) No Pope can teach heresy or grave error. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of Catholic Answers Live, and he has raving fans around the world. For context, here is one of the podcasts they did a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. [12] All but one have been self-published by Saint John Press and Media, a company held and managed by Marshall. That is sad. RoP [Right On Point] is a perfect forum for this. Im fine. They were married on June 9, 2001, at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Fort Worth, Texas. (9:54 PM), Just gotta retry each day for unity. [16] Marshall was noticed by the campaign in return, and retweeted on the president's Twitter account. FOR THE RECORD: HE ENDED TNT. Required fields are marked *. You may not stand in judgment over the Pope. Will do whatever I can. And when Marshall says more hereticalthan anything in Amoris Laetitia, he implies a further accusation, that Amoris Laetitia contains heresy. But again, has to involve all willing parties. Do not be deceived, my fellow Catholics. This sounded very familiar. 'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks. If it is correct great. Sorry to see him go, but pride goeth before a fall. Timothy Gordon replied on 4-13-20, at 8:36 PM and 8:54 PM: Agreed. Thank you! Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of "Catholic Answers Live," and he has raving fans around the world. All else is minutiae, God bless FSSP! Good bye Mr Taylor. So Marshall believes that Pope Francis has espoused particular heretical ideas. For the penalty for formal schism is automatic excommunication, making him also unworthy to receive Communion. Honesty check time, (accidentally) mischaracterized my position, which is actually schismatic attitude in many/most attendees (but not all). (4-14-20, 4:58 PM), It is fixable. (9-7-21), LIVE: Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall (9-8-21). I think it comes dangerously close. (1:53 PM), The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. He does this by examining the history of the conflict between Church and Freemasonry, examining many recent private revelations and prophecies, and tying these to the undeniably unsettling developments within the Church in the last 60 years. (11:30 PM), Dave and I guessabout the status of SSPX differently. You are wrong on Justification. But if youre saying that hes a heretic, which they say in his opening line, an heretical Pope, my ecclesiastical sense says, you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. And that is something that I, Taylor Marshall, on this date, cannot say. (3:18 PM), Completely unacceptable, Taylor. If it is an apologists opinion, not the teaching of the Church I ask, Do you receive the Sacraments from so and so? Do you go to your apologist when you have a problem in your marriage? Where does so and so receive authority to teach? For my part in some irreverent jesting in the wake of this spat, Im sorry. [2] He is a founder of the New Saint Thomas Institute, an online Catholic theology educational program, and the Troops of Saint George, a Catholic scouting organization. Pope St. Leo IX: By passing a preceding judgment on the great See, concerning which it is not permitted any man to pass judgment, you have received anathema from all the Fathers of all the venerable Councils. Your over-the-top language overshadows any legitimate criticism you may have. Its intellectual. Civil discussion is whats needed and you wont even respond to me, privately or publicly. Dr Taylor Marshall @TaylorRMarshall Bestselling author of "Infiltration" and 10 other books. Or admit that you have fallen into grave sin out of pride in the brightness of your own thoughts. (1:54 PM), The issue is that the texts are to be presumed faithful unless specifically heretical, even if their drafters used weaponized ambiguity[.] (4-14-20, 4:23 PM), Im blocking the 3 Gordons because they will not drop it regarding me and the SSPX. And most of these people think youre scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. College of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More, Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign, "The Secret Society of Priests Who Hate Pope Francis", "Not All Evangelicals and Catholics Together", "Why it's harder to become a Catholic than a Protestant", "New priests ordained, church buildings blessed", "Why Won't The New Saint Thomas Institute Respond To Their Customers? (, This bodes very ill for the future unity of the reactionary revolt, seeing that both Shaw and Sammons are part of, Steve Skojec, founder and former editor at, The entire trad movement has become a chorus of barking dogs. Our Ladys Teaching On Prayer: The First of a Lenten Course on Prayer, What Fast Does Lent Require? No. Is there actually a breaking point? Of course I have sounded the alarm on Joseph Shaw, too. Take it up with them. Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. This is contrary to the first Commandment of the Ten Commandments. Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of heresy on the plurality of religions, and of violating one of the Ten Commandments. Just defending myself with the truth. In the course of the discussion, Marshall commits public heresy and schism. He never said. Catholics become schismatics when they reject the Pope as Teacher and Shepherd, when they reject his authority over doctrine and discipline. Now, recall (above) when Taylor Marshall said that if you accuse the Pope of heresy you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. Well, he is accusing the Pope of heresy, so he is not in communion with him. When Pope Francis issued the early statement on many religions, some theologians complained saying that God only permits many religions. (1:50 PM), Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. Very sad. Now its happening to the one who was his partner. Major pattern. The largest imaginablepublic detraction w/ extremely sensitive private info you had as a family friend. I must admit to my own biases in that I don't trust converts, especially those making $$$ off the church's controversies. Professional gurus need money to survive but when their popularity wanes then the cycle begins again as the apologists have to reinvent themselves or go back to regular work. Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. If anyone can enlighten me, that would be appreciated. We should be afraid were we to fail to work fraternally to walk together in life.. (9:58 PM), Lefebvre voted for EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. but for all negative comments about them. Marshall then objects to the phrase in the Open Letter heretical Pope. I called him yesterday. Also for the record, Ive never been certain why Taylor opted for non-renewal during the peak of TNT popularity. (Also, secretly blocking someone as you tweet someone that youre available is insane.) Marshall also formerly served as the assistant director of the Archdiocese of Washington's Catholic Information Center. [21] Marshall, on his YouTube channel, regularly comments on statements from Vigan. The Novus Ordo is invalid or objectively offensive to God. And since the DOGMA of the First Vatican Council teaches us that no Pope can teach or commit heresy, Marshalls accusation is itself heretical. His critical statement on his web page was even more scathing: Taylor Marshall, a man I usually ignore, has insulted the signatories of this statement, as lacking the brave and bold spirit which, he claims, animated the late Archbishop Lefebvre. Im blocking the 3 Gordons because they will not drop it regarding me and the SSPX. Someone close to Taylor, tell him to return my call. Why all the handwringing about civility? Im saying that formal adherence to schismatic acts is a grave peril of attending the SSPX. There is no clearly statement of the public sin of schism than for a Catholic to say, I resist him to his face. You are not absolved of schism by stating that you recognize he is the Pope. God forgive me for anything negative or incorrect that I have ever said about the SSPX. Why the biblical analogy of Christ as Bridegroom and the Church as Bride remains the fundamental truth of the relationship between the sexes. Show me where I called you a single name. #TnT1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTcyTZ_Yc02 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMTNjOjDmjM 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKimOr9RRCI 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV9v0RUlqMQ 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUjt0uZv-g 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyJ_EX1UPtA7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-AG_nBPhH4 8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmEMbyttCs The Catholic Talk Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9w8fxlmP4 Dwight Longenecker tweeted similarly: When Catholics set themselves up to judge and condemn popes and bishops its not long before they are judging and condemning one another. The errors are only a matter of degree here. Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. To all those who believed that I was criticizing his/his familys reception of the Eucharist from the SSPX rather than the implicit invitation for the less-educated faithful to frequent SSPX liturgy, note this was not my intention. . Posted on Friday, October 5, 2018. T his is part 1 of a three part series on the three visions given by Our Lady of Fatima. I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. So he doesnt understand the Rosary, or the Latin Mass, or St. Thomas? He judges the Supreme Pontiff to be guilty of teaching heresy on multiple serious points of doctrine. It was long overdue, though completely predictable. [23][24] In March 2020, it was revealed that Marshall himself had personally funded Tschugguel's trip to Rome and uploaded the video of the theft. One has the right to defend ones reputation, For the annals of history: I didnt leave. I was non-renewed against my wishes. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn[.] But I saw Josephs tweet and found it disappointing. 2 or 3 of them. Yes theres a new theology that needs to be rejected. There were other pastoral councils that did not condemn a heresy. I watched the film Jesus Revolution last night. We also look at the errors of Balthasar and his hypothesis of "Dare We Hope that All Be Saved" (a theory also espoused by Bishop Robert Barron). In this video, Pope Francis Accused of 7 Counts of Heresy by 19 Scholars, Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon discuss the Open Letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy. Can we talk about that? It is not that God wishes many persons to be in religions which lack the fullness of truth. But the other fault lines inherent in such an arbitrary and quasi-schismatic movement were bound to come out sooner or later. Its an important intellectual matter and it merits dispassionate debate. Tag Archives: Timothy Gordon Post navigation. Whoever writes that Patheos blog seems to be a nasty piece of work. (8:33 PM), He made it sound like he called back, Steve. Why we need to stop validating the word feminism (namely its toxic meaning) with some kind of nice adjective, like Christian feminism, new feminism.. Unfortunately, we have a number of chieftains, some with significant egos; and no William Wallace. In this episode, you will learn: (3:43 PM), I never claimed I texted Taylor yesterday. They acted like old buddies and intellectual "colleagues." Two laymen with a youtube channel, spreading the news about the Pachamama dunker guy, etc. He wasn't just a teacher, he was a department chair, and popular with the area's conservative Catholics. What's the essence of their disagreement? Dr. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon knock it outta da park HERE. I reached out to Tim this morning. "The Catholic Monitor" Butchers My View of Papal "Eucharistic Pharisees" (Communion in the Hand). They talk about tough things but have a good time! I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid!, Just tried calling you. A bunch of the mob on here defend your position, but say they choose FSSP over SSPX every time, THIS is the real issue. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text[.] We must not fear differences. Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. He also says that during Abby's surgery this past weekend, Taylor tweeted some private and confidential sensitive information about Tim's household, having obtained that information as a result of his (former) close friendship with Tim. Any position whatever on this topic cannot be heresy, as the Magisterium has not infallibly defined the answer. Not gonna tweet anymore on this[. It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me[.] That is why, as he. And what will happen after the Pontificate of Francis, if a conservative Pope is elected? If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, you will love this podcast. Its contrary to the Councils, Tradition, Fathers.. Ego kills. Steven OReilly made the obvious point in a tweet underneath Timothy Gordons (4-13-20, 5:20 PM): The problem is, in order to unite the clans, as in the analogy, a William Wallace is needed. (7:45 PM), Petty, self-serving, vindictive, egomaniacal acts like releasing sensitive private 411 about my household during Abbys surgery. (10:22 PM), Taylor, can you tell me in a sentence why SSPX is necessary when FSSP exists? See the pattern there? Press J to jump to the feed. Look where it got them. Because there are many religions, and why are there many religions? For Bishop Barron to refuse a debate with Dr. Taylor Marshall, simply on the grounds that Marshall wrote Infiltration, not only substantiates Marshall's argument that the hierarchy in the Church has been infiltrated, but also furthers a narrative of what I call the Episcopal Leviathan. For those who don't know, they are both in the traditionalist Catholic blogosphere (in an extremely brief summary, traditionalist Catholics are very conservative and prefer Catholic rituals done as they were before the Second Vatican Council). He made it sound like he called back, Steve. (10:31 AM), Its a boring, inconsequential, fruitless debate. Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. People accused me of not reaching out, which I have been for months[. Wherever it leads. Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). I reached out to Tim this morning. A subreddit to help you keep up to date with what's going on with reddit and other stuff. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon are one of the funniest Catholic guys on Youtube. The point of departure was NOT receiving Communionwhich is licit all things consideredbut the apology for not just inaccurate statements about SSPX (which is great!) Shall we list the many who have done this? All of us, me included. You are wrong on all of these things. It is not submission to acknowledge that Pope Francis is the Pope. . Can we talk about that? (4-14-20, 4:59 PM). I dont care about the business model. They have eight children. . The current dust-up has far more potentially serious consequences, as I will show. But Trads have flatly misunderstood religious freedom in Dignitatis: read Leo XIIIs IMMORTALE DEI 36, which Trads reject Dave and I agree 100%about Dignitatis, Agreed that there was a modernist intent going in. Irrelevant. Please disown that[.] At the same time, Church Militant/Michael Voris is doing an expose on alleged pedophile coverups in the SSPX. Wow! All the while, Marshall continues to receive Communion, despite rejecting the Roman Pontiff. We bring that up over and over on TNT. Whats obtuse is a hermeneutic of intentionalism instead of a hermeneutic of textualism, Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. In this video, I address the recent controversy surrounding Taylor Marshall's comments on the SSPX, Dave and Tim Gordon's reactions to it, and arguments that. You are wrong on cohabitation. I wanted to continue, even w/ above: we were saving souls and thats all I care about: (7:57 PM), Thats why youll always see me warning against SSPX even though its trending now and him riding the wave. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text, The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. [22], In October 2019, Marshall received media attention for publicizing an incident at the Catholic Church's Amazon Synod in which Alexander Tschugguel and an accomplice filmed themselves removing indigenous fertility statues, reportedly of Pachamama, from the Church of Santa Maria in Traspontina in Rome and throwing them into the Tiber river. It seems possible to do with some but not most SSPX attendees, namely the ones w/o the schismatic attitude How do you unite the clans with those who call us FSSP bootlickers, a common attitude among SSPX ever since FSSP broke off. (2:04 PM), I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid! (2:14 PM), Just tried calling you. You may not accuse the Pope of heresy. Anyway, if it is blue-on-blue attacks you are worried about, that is exactly what Im criticizing TM for. Yes, Taylor Marshall, anyone who accuses the Pope of heresy necessarily also commits the sin of schism by refusal of submission as well as communion with the Pope. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Youll see the term Catholic Used Book Service, which is my old side-business. (9:16 PM), Also for the record, Ive never been certain why Taylor opted for non-renewal during the peak of TNT popularity. I enjoyed the interplay between the two and all of a sudden I noticed that there was no more Tim Gordon. Marshall goes on to make the judgment that Pope Francis has taught heresy and grave error, contrary to dogma. "Dr. Taylor Marshall's The Eternal City takes the reader deep into the Catholic origins of the Apostolic Faith." - Bishop James Conley, D.D., S.T.L. Even an atheist will acknowledge that. I enjoy and respect them both. (4-14-20, 5:01 PM), Im fine. (, You know its not true I cant believe you think he has no understanding of any of the issues he talks about. Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. It needs to stop. But the debate should be: a) not avoided and b) CIVIL, Nobody wants the Catholic infighting, Taylor. Its quite strange, no? I read somewhere that it has something to do with the Society of St. Pius X, a group in an "irregular situation" regarding canonical status due to the founder's excommunication, but I'm not sure how exactly involved they are in the Marshall vs Gordon thing. [6] In 2009 Marshall earned his Master of Arts degree in philosophy, and in 2011 earned a Doctor of Philosophy degree in philosophy, at the University of Dallas. His cohort in over 100 videos, Timothy Gordon, publicly spoke out against this, and all hell has broken loose in reactionary ranks, and we have a civil war. I recently chronicled the split between Taylor. So I hope the Good Lord will make allowances for us lesser folk. Its not a matter of opinion. Marshall: theyre accusing him of the canonical delict of heresy. But youre not understanding that conciliar documents need to be interpreted under the construction most optimally faithful to Tradition, wherever possible. But in an April 2020 tweet, Tim said that his contract with Marshall was not renewed "against my wishes." * What Saint Bellarmine really said about Popes and Heresy. Earlier still, on April 12th, Gordon tweeted: Im not asserting with certainty that SSPX is in a formal schism. I said nothing about you or your family on here and never would! Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the . People accused me of not reaching out, which I have been for months, Did you see how many folks idiotically assumed that I havent been reaching out as a brother in Jan/Feb/March? Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. I just dont want this dragging out in public. God bless our most holy, ardent, bold, yet obedient priests of the TLM! Theres an unimagined gap between FSSP and SSPX[.] that every Pope has immunity from error by the gift of God, divinely-conferred. Radical Catholic Reactionaries. 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