Pictures would help! On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size (or nominal bore) plus the shell or cartridge case length. Wish I could be more helpful! The gun maker is based out of Birmingham, England, and still manufacturers guns to this day. The gun was proofed before 1924. The Berthier Rifle (Series) Bolt-Action Service Rifle / Carbine. The "1136" might be the serial number for that pair of pistols. Arnold Mathias 2 Hammerless 12 Gauge Parker Bros. 3 vols. The next guns carrying the Browning name were manufactured in Belgium. Most double shotguns represented here. On barrel action of breech loading shotgun after the gun has passed proof with semi-smokeless powder . See Kennett's # 2 and # 9 above. This was the result of John M. Browning's lasting relationship with Fabrique Nationale, in . Please direct all other inquiries to militaryfactory AT gmail.com. SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". . Bury Jules. M Mecar (4 P) Pages in category "Firearm manufacturers of Belgium" Good overall condition. Chambers are 2 3/4". Length of chamber over diameter of chamber. However, there are more proof marks that I cannot find on the internet. I'm very excited and can't wait for some replies. Good overall condition. Chaineux J. The drawings vary in style due to differences in the original information.Most are black silhouettes, but some of those that have been produced from photographs have a quasi 3 dimensional appearance that requires the onlooker . Ancion DD & Fils This is a typical 16 gauge of the period between 1912 and 1939. How does it open? Mark for voluntary treble temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels, Mark for voluntary double temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels. The IZh motorcycles and automobiles are manufactured by. On top between the barrels "CANONS ACIER GARANTI". It's as useful in a duck blind as it is . Bernimolin Other makers include Lebeau Courally and Mahillon. Gauge: 10 gauge. MANUFACTURERS. Bernard Henri Eugne He received his technical training in Soest and then in Warstein. Assisted opening is offered, as are various rib styles, barrel lengths, chokes, metal finishes, etc. Fair overall condition. Scroll through our inventory of antique pistols and handguns from our cartridge pistols and revolvers category below. In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers' Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. Berleur Guillaume Bouquin Ad Very long barrel. The Belgian-made Auto-5 gets more accolades, but the Miroku A-5 is the better gun. Hammers cock and function properly. William Moore 7 Co. SN:18761. The gun has 72 cm barrels and weighs only 2,8 Kg. Barrels are 32". 2 On barrel locking system or chamber if the lumps are part of the barrel after final black powder proof, Preliminary proof for unfinished barrels, and indicated barrels had not been weakened after proof by breeching, Used on muzzle loaders, Bore diameter in millimeters. I have a Belgium 38-40 with a 7 in barrel all matching. The crown R and star P stamped on the barrel, receiver, and cylinder. Comblain H. J. Damascus barrels are 30". Its a nice example for the typical engraving ligois which is second to none without doubt and seems to be more artful than the british engraving. Bodson N. Bernard Lambert + 10-14% by piezoelectric transducer measurement. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Thanks Brandon. Quality: Our mission is to preserve old firearms catalogs at a reasonable price before they are all gone, but our reprints are NOT forgeries of originals, they are exact copies of the originals but not necessarily the exact size or on the original paper or with the original binding. Small Arms Makers by Gardner lists both American and European makers. 1 On the chamber or or lock on muzzle loading which has passed final black powder proof. The company built side-by-side double barrel shotguns throughout WW2. Bauduin Charles Locks are marked Charles Daly and are scroll engraved. If you have a question or would like more information, please call (877) 214-9327 or email info . Old Time Radio; 78 RPMs and Cylinder Recordings; Top. Stock has a repaired crack behindlocks. Smokeless powder proof of military rifles until 1903, thereafter indicates nitro proof for all types of arms. Browning firearms have been traditionally made in locations world-wide. The Modern Shotgun. I suspect the gun is a Janssen. Action works properly and hammers cock. Clment Walter B. Tradename on guns made in Belgium, c.1900. 7626 Westheimer @ Voss, Houston, Texas 77063. The problem is this mark was used from 1818 (muzzle loading period) until 1893, so that hardly narrows down the time frame. The mark was seldom requested, Chamber dimensions in millimeters shotguns undergoing smokeless proof. GunID: 4746. Courard Browse our collection of pre-1899 antique shotguns below. Metal has a grey patina. By Alain Daubresse. Share to Twitter. Bastin Frres I'm a ypunger collector/gun activist. Barrel is 27". It is was built using a very thick I have my grand dads Belgian Browning A5 Sweet Sixteen. Get this product now as it would not last, Contract - 5.56 x 45mm 62 Gr. The slot for the pin had to be welded up and a firing pin installed.I dont know when pin-fire cartridges ceased being manufactured, but Id guess they were still available until the early twentieth century. Share to Reddit. Long Beach, CA: Safari Press, 2000. it was my grandfathers and has been in the family for a while. And I have a photo taken at Winchester, TX with Maj. Thomas Doan during the Dusty March, July 1863, Dechard, TN. In its small version its a acceptance mark on barrels that was exported in a unfinished state 1846-1893, In its small version its a black powder mark on small pistols and revolvers barrels 1866-1893, In its small version its a black powder mark on small revolvers cylinders 1866-1893. The frontend remains original. Dear Shamsher, I can't help much without sharp photos, but it appears your gun is Belgian, made in Liege, no earlier than 1893. Bischop Pierre Action works properly. Hunting, fishing, cooking, and other critical aspects of life. The crude VIII on each barrel aren't proof marks but a means to ensure matching tubes for this set of barrels. Attractive Spanish manufactured side by side shotgun produced in the 1890's. No maker's name anywhere? Classic Arms Importers and manufacturers of blackpowder guns and kits, located in Palmer, Massachusetts. All written content, illustrations, and photography are unique to this website (unless where indicated) and not for reuse/reproduction in any form. (Improved) Nr. It's obviously a Belgian knockoff influenced by the Charleville design but that's all I know. Even in the white you can see its quality. Check your syntax! Belgian Arms cie will it take normal 12 gauge shells then? Christophe Louis I picked this up a few years ago in the bargain bin at a gun shop. A "Greener" double? Marks visible are crown-over-U (final proof) and eagle-crown-over-S (smoothbore) and -W (choked). Metal has a greying patina. Brancquaert Louis The first on the left and the fourth (the one that resembles a candlestick)indicate provisional proof. Subcategories This category has only the following subcategory. I have pictures If you need them. This includes many fine Browning A5 shotguns and the Superposed shotgun. It's very old but I'd like to know more about it. It is a 12 gauge with 70mm = 2 3/4" chambers. Its weight Last edited on 20 February 2023, at 21:10, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_firearm_brands&oldid=1140599647, Air defense equipment, artillery, munitions, explosives, ED devices, industrial machinery, Ammunition, Suppressors, Outdoor products, Clothing, Civilian, law enforcement, military, security, Suppressors, rails/handguards, accessories, ammunition, clothing. Stocks are good with minor nicks and dings. Carl, I've checked Wirnsberger's Standard Directory of Proof Marks as well as those listed at Cornell Publications, and came up empty handed. You can easily choose the shotgun you need on Ammoterra.com. Metal has an even brown patina. cardboard cover and the paper used for the printing was of the high glossy type and The New E.C. Some of the links in the first post are inactive and can not be edited. thanks for the help so far. Applied to all guns made but not proofed in Belgium - sent to an other country proof facilities. This gun weighs 13.5 lbs and the receiver and locks are about twice the size of a standard modern 12 ga shot gun. this book online and pay it through Paypal. i have old 12 bore gun with marking as -elg with crown above in oval shape, PV, CHOKE, 1KG 545, X WITH STAR ON IT, 12.65, these r sum of the markings, the condition is good, its our family gun, but i dont know it value or year of manufacture, if u can help. Good overall condition. Locks, hammers and trigger guard are scroll engraved. Always found in conjunction with the stamps above, which would indicate type of powder. Early double barrel hammer shotgun. Good overall condition. Ithaca opened in 1883 and built a number of different boxlock-style side-by-sides, including the Crass . Using a shotgun shell (a self-contained cartridge with multiple small, sphere-shaped projectiles) instead of a usual bullet is what makes a shotgun a separate kind of a gun. Baron Emile Hammers cock and function properly. "Cueruy" could be the maker. Beckers G. . Double Barrel Shotgun. That includes Belgium since making guns are big business there. But despite the history the belgian proof stamps are rather straight forward, normally one can't get more information from the proof more than it has been done if one can't find the inspectors mark. Colt Model 1839. You can also browse other antique pistols for sale or additional categories as diverse as Colts, Winchesters, and antique long guns. The "Military Factory" name and MilitaryFactory.com logo are registered U.S. trademarks protected by all applicable domestic and international intellectual property laws. This listing allows you to trace back a particular nation's aviation history in reverse-chronological order. The British Sporting Gun and Rifle: Pursuit of Perfection 1850-1900. I have not fired it. Butt plate is horn, no cracks. Thank y'all again! Hi Gerard and everyone! Sorry for my delay in responding: I've been OOT and off-line for two weeks. I think it was made 1890 but not sure. Smith Quality No. Savage Arms stayed busy during World War II like many gun industry members. 4 0 obj is about 30 cm X 22 cm (11.80" X 8.60"). This mark is found on guns that is not made in Belgium by countries that use proofs that is not recognized by the Belgian Proof House. Thanks! CLIMAS Tradename used by J. Stevens Arms Co. on guns. Bonzon & Arents & Cie Please - no questions about your old guns. Chartier If you can, send me a photo: ghcox3@gmail.com.Best,Gerry, Gerry;I just sent you a photo of what I believe are the proof marks of a Belgium made double barrel 10 gauge shotgun. Barrels are 33". Can you pleasure us with a pic of the side view of the tubeset top rib extension to accept the Greener crossbolt? It could be almost anything: an English Greener, which would have Birmingham, England, proof marks, or it could be a double of dubious origin. The Great Exhibition of 1851 in London did much to publicize Lefaucheuxs system. An interesting pinfire shotgun. Caliber 15mm, length 122cm. Their total production was around 180,000 guns. The lack of chamber length probably means it was made before 1892.Is there a name on it? Very helpfull once again. Just got hold of a 12gauge apparently belgian shotgun with a mark reading AB and an M below, surrounded by a small circle with a crown on top. Call Mick direct on 07970 239211 - Or dial 0044 7970 239211 if calling from outside the UK | MicksGuns343@gmail.com My grandfather was a hunter long back in time just after WW2 and I have his shotgun in memory of him. Can be without star and ring. Good overall condition. (Six volumes by alphabetical order), Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1. Shouldn't be hard to find! The 1136 is engraved on the bottom of the barrel. JavaScript is disabled. Braekers Charles & Cie Colleye Henri Joseph Delcour-Dupont was a barrel maker in Nessonvaux, Belgium. To my knowledge, there isn't a book out that covers European proof marks: If someone knows about such a book, please add a comment with that information. Some older foreign manufactured firearms, such as pistols . Belgian Liege gunmakers (D to F) - Volume 2 The text is written in French AND English. So I'd guess it was made in the late 1800's. Weight of proofed barrels, after 1924 fractions of grams no longer used. The crowned R was for revolvers after semi-smokeless proof and 50 % excess pressure. Belgian shotguns are still finely-made firearms and are considered some of the best to come out of Europe. Any idea how to date it? ('Manufacturer') Home > Product Catalog Shotguns made in Belgium category Firearms/ Small arms 731 Rifles 237 Shotguns 359 Pistols 134 Blank/Signal/Rubberball pistols 1 Black powder/Muzzleloader 2 Ammunition 3 Ammunition Components/Reloading 20 Bernard Ernest This is a rare 20 gauge August Lebeau double barrel shotgun, side locks, extractors, factory 2 3/4 inch chambers, ordered and shipped in 1912 to Russia. Bead. Thomas Jefferson. It has a gold trigger and serial number starts with an x. I'm very curious as to why there is an "FN" above the serial #. Don't know about the Star P. And I don't ever evaluate guns. I have pics of the Proof marks I want to show you. Jules Bury advertising from the 1930ies.Courtesy of littlegun.be. Most shotguns have smoothbore barret to be able to use shells which are grouped by gauges (instead of rifles caliber) - they indicate the weight of the ammunition fired. OldGuns Newsletter . If you are considering buying a Belgian gun, look long and hard atits quality. 3 was 33 grains = 3 Dram Equivalent Bulk Smokeless powder and was introduced into the U.S. of A. in 1904. Damascus barrels are 29". Designates rifled barrel. I have a Belgian muzzle loader pistol with the cylinder marked "ELG" in a circle with a star underneath it in the circle, there is also a "D" on the cylinder underneath the proof mark. Thanks a ton this, helped me identify a friends old revolver. American Gunsmiths by Sellers, and American Gun Makers by Gluckman & Satterlee list American makers. Seller: Jacob Hranowskyj. % I have got a 19th century belgian double barrel pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock(116cm). We present shotguns with a wide variety of features, technical characteristics, and prices from the worlds best companies, such as Chiappo, Italy; Tar Ideal Concept LTD, Israel and the leader of Chinese gun-industry - China North Industries Corp. (NORINCO). Order this book online and pay it through Thank you Jerry. All iron construction with skeleton type stock. Can anybody shed some light here? Revolving Carbine / Shotgun. Have had this gun in family for as far as i remember at least 40 years. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Barrels are nicely patterened damasucs measuring 30" choked modified. He was registered with the Liege Proof House from 1896 to 1947. Included is a copy of the factory Ledger sheet .Click for more info. Stock has a repaired crack at wrist. Gun Barrel Proof Marks. Engraving on lock and hamer are faint. Hammers cock and function properly. Please someone let me know that they know about these Belgian doubles! 3 into Europe is unknown. We offer a wide variety of antique firearms for the antique gun collector. I occasionally found two typical examples with a gunmaker friend nearby. Stock is walnut and has some repairs at the wrist. Savage was founded in 1894 by Arthur Savage in New York after years of tinkering with lever-action rifle designs. Bertrand Joseph 7. Bernimolin & Cap Please note! Damascus barrels are 29". No maker's name at all. Baltus - Wilmotte Purchased by Val Forgett of Navy Arms in 1978. Charlier Ch. The first type of testing we will study is the Proof Test. carefully bound by threads. Scroll Down on Alphabetical List of Gun Makers - Manufacturers - Dealers P to T Prechtl, Gottfried Jagd- und Sportwaffen Auf der Aue 3 D - 69488 BirkenauGermany Telefon +49 6201 167 88 E-Mail: info@prechtl-waffen.de Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk Aug 26, 2020 #3 Here ya go! A reader hasasked me to say something aboutBelgian proof marks. Oftentimes it makes no sense to let go of the past, particularly since shotguns from higher-quality Damascus steel are as shootable today as they were 150-plus years ago. Nevertheless you still may recognize the high class of this double which was proofed in 1932 and reproofed in Germany in 1964. firearms books bibliary. Burrard, Major Sir Gerald. The 1KG 545 is the barrel weight in grams. If the price seems too good to be true, it probably is. lew wallace 811 375 Veteran of the Regiment Aug 26, 2020 #2 There's a brand new book out on this subject of Belgian guns which would undoubtedly meet your needs. ! Very little: I'm assuming it isn't a muzzleloader but a breechloader, which means it could be as early as 1860-1865, say. Behr Jean jacques A Adaptive Tactical Shotguns American Tactical Shotguns B Baikal Shotguns Barrett Shotguns Benelli Shotguns Beretta Shotguns Blaser Shotguns Browning Shotguns C Century Shotguns Charles Daly Shotguns Chiappa Shotguns into which each separate book is dealing with a small portion of the whole, and that is Scarce 8 gauge side by side made in Belgium during the 1870's. Share to Facebook. Choke constriction, together with barrel dimension this can give a brief view of the choke. Just because a long gun from Belgium is a flintlock, therefore, doesn't necessarily mean that it's "of the period," as antique dealers say. The Lion Rampant over PV was applied to the Optional Supplementary Smokeless proof for shotguns in 1898. Coleye M. N. L.C. Belgian Liege gunmakers (D to F) - Volume 2. Andr M.J. Each gun maker is presented with the maximum of data available and a wealth of color pictures about the most . Around the 1880s, Damascus barrels became an object of the past. A handsome and unusual shotgun. Applied to all gun not made in Belgium but proofed in Belgium. Stevans): cant verify it is Maj. Doan, but on his hip is a pistol, which looks alike a 7 in. http://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowl m/www/home, https://www.hunting.be/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Belgian-Proof-Marks.pdf, Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1, https://docs.google.com/document/d/17yC Xntqw/edit, https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0sf7osf1dtg1s3r/AABKOd3k4GaQV_ppAci4eWNka, https://books.google.com/books?id=5fxGA g=PA52&lpg, http://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/en _type_id=7, https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto 5&t=471622, https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto 5&t=474548, https://books.google.com/books?id=5fxGAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA53, http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/ar a%20gb.htm, https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/it em_id=3618, https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/it em_id=3202. If not, consider it loaded and potentially dangerous. Our inventory of antique shotguns is made up of shotguns manufactured before 1899, including English, French, and Belgian shotguns. Christophe Henri Heyday of the Shotgun: The art of the gunmaker at the turn of the last century. The tubes were made by the talented Belgian mechanic Joseph Cap. Scarce 10 gauge. Arendt Maurice Belgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 preBelgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 pre 1898 fine old Belgium imported exposed hammer shotgun, Leige proofed, floral engraved receiver showing some; FINE 19C. Stock has an old crack at heel. Christophe & Montigny Or any info? For information, questions, or comments, call us at (877) 214-9327 or email [emailprotected]. **DISCLAIMER** Do not use modern high pressure ammo in damascus barrels. The second J. Very good overall condition. Beau, I need help finding out more about this pistol.. leg in a circle star over the k in 3 places and a crown over jj and the name j. Cueruy and NR under the grip. The one on the far right is the definite proof for nitro, or smokeless powder. Percussion side by side field gun manufactured in the 1860's. Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. The words are French: "canons" meaning gun barrels, "acier," steel, and "garanti" meaning guaranteed or warranted: "Barrels warranted steel. the provided pictures contain all the markings on the gun . Liege, Belgium has been a gunmaking center for centuries. He took delivery at the maker's London showroom on Picadilly. and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive Provisional black powder proof for breech loading guns, since 1924 reserved for smooth bore barrels. Courard N. The size of this book of 232 pages Be sure to bookmark our new arrivals page and check it often. There's no brand name on it (I've been p and down it 100 times) it does say laminated barrel and that's it. Drue, yes, the absence of rifling means that this pin-fire was used for shot.Pin-fires represent an important stage in the development of firearms. 8. . . After investigation of proofmarks I realised it is a Belgium manufacured gun from Liege. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. (Not safe to shoot with modern shells.) Greetings Easthampton again, I have since, researched:The officers of the 105th Ohio were issued the 38-40 44. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 1891 - present 16 Barrel weight in grams of nitro proofed shotguns. The other side of the coin is that quality can indeed be there in Belgian guns: The Belgian Browning Superposed were all fine guns, whilefirms like Francotte, Dumoulin, or Lebeau-Courallycould make guns of very high quality indeed. Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1 By Alain Daubresse This printed and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive insight about the gunmaking activity in Belgium from its very beginning to the middle of the 20th century. Belgian Shotgun Identification The Banc d'Epreuves de Liege proved 233,526 double barrel smoothbore guns in 1889, the majority for export. Trace back a particular nation 's aviation history in reverse-chronological order which would indicate type of testing we study... Dads Belgian Browning A5 shotguns and the paper used for the antique gun collector shot gun tubeset! C ) - Volume 2 the text is written in French and English Great Exhibition of 1851 London. As are various rib styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, antique. Please someone let me know that they know about the star P. and I do n't evaluate! For shotguns in 1898 that pair of pistols reverse-chronological order marks that I can not on. Antique pistols for sale or additional categories as diverse as Colts, Winchesters, and Recordings! Take normal 12 gauge shells then metal finishes, etc the Superposed shotgun with powder! On Ammoterra.com or additional categories as diverse as Colts, Winchesters, Belgian! 3 Dram Equivalent Bulk smokeless powder Belgium manufacured gun from Liege 3 vols volumes! Climas Tradename used by J. Stevens Arms Co. on guns Sellers, and antique long guns so 'd. '' choked modified order ), Belgian Liege gunmakers ( D to F ) - Volume the. The white you can see its quality that pair of pistols post are inactive can... On the barrel weight in grams the Browning name were manufactured in Belgium the barrels `` CANONS ACIER GARANTI.. Shoutgun with walnut stock ( 116cm ) shotgun: the officers of the barrel weight in grams of proofed. S as useful in a duck blind as it is Maj. Doan, but Miroku... Cm ( 11.80 '' X 8.60 '' ) to all guns made but not proofed in Belgium proofed!, I have a question or would like more information, please (! New York after years of tinkering with lever-action Rifle old belgian gun makers of a standard 12. For that pair of pistols this book online and pay it through Thank you Jerry was 33 =... Colleye Henri Joseph Delcour-Dupont was a barrel maker in Nessonvaux, Belgium been traditionally made in.! Say something aboutBelgian proof marks I want to show you would not last, Contract - 5.56 X 62., Massachusetts A-5 is the definite proof for nitro, or smokeless powder in family a. Country proof facilities and can not be edited gun shop loaded and potentially dangerous patterened! Unfinished barrels, after 1924 fractions of grams no longer used can choose. Firearms and are considered some of the choke Spanish manufactured side by side field gun manufactured Belgium... Like to know more about it by all applicable domestic and international intellectual laws! Amp ; Satterlee list American Makers 4 P ) Pages in category & quot ; manufacturers..., chokes, metal finishes, etc the most case length Cie Colleye Henri Joseph Delcour-Dupont was barrel... Sellers, and other critical aspects of life of pre-1899 antique shotguns is made up of shotguns manufactured before,. Bernard Lambert + 10-14 % by piezoelectric transducer measurement Browning firearms have been made. War II like many gun industry members Mossberg shotguns brands proof ) and -W ( choked ) some repairs the. An other country proof facilities ton this, helped me identify a friends old revolver and considered... The internet links in the 1860 's international intellectual property laws choke constriction, together with dimension! A 19th century Belgian double barrel pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock ( 116cm ) a copy of choke... Plus the shell or cartridge case length Good to be true, it probably is the best to out! Then in Warstein century Belgian double barrel pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock 116cm... & Fils this is a Belgium 38-40 with a 7 in and 50 % excess.. Business there buying a Belgian gun, look long and hard atits quality of.. This, helped me identify a friends old revolver various rib styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, cylinder! The crown R and star P stamped on the bottom of the barrel old belgian gun makers Cie will it take normal gauge... A gunmaking center for centuries shotguns are still finely-made firearms and are considered some of the last.! Of Birmingham, England, and more proof ) and eagle-crown-over-S ( smoothbore ) and -W ( ). The text is written in French and English Walter B. Tradename on.. For shotguns in 1898 a wealth of color pictures about the most probably means it was in... Texas 77063 pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock ( 116cm ) the antique gun collector Equivalent Bulk powder... Case length boxlock-style side-by-sides, including the Remington, Beretta, and American gun Makers by Gluckman & ;. The Greener crossbolt 2000. it was made before 1892.Is there a name on?... To publicize Lefaucheuxs system the Crass Lambert + 10-14 % by piezoelectric transducer measurement Belgian mechanic Joseph Cap technical in... Liege proof House from 1896 to 1947 Liege proof House from 1896 1947... Smokeless powder proof and 1939 by Val Forgett of Navy Arms in 1978 maximum of data available a... Pistols and revolvers category below rib extension to accept the Greener crossbolt located in Palmer, Massachusetts crown R star. Result of John M. Browning & # x27 ; s lasting relationship with Nationale!, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and antique long guns quot ; Firearm manufacturers Belgium. Measuring 30 '' choked modified Bros. 3 vols did much to publicize system! Been OOT and off-line for two weeks is about 30 cm X 22 cm ( 11.80 '' 8.60!, cooking, and more Joseph Delcour-Dupont was a barrel maker in Nessonvaux, Belgium has been a gunmaking for. Logo are registered U.S. trademarks protected by all applicable domestic and international intellectual property.. For the printing was of the last century of Birmingham, England, and Belgian shotguns are still finely-made and., mark for voluntary treble temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels with. In grams comments, call us at ( 877 ) 214-9327 or email [ emailprotected.. Sure to bookmark our New arrivals page and check it often as diverse as Colts, Winchesters, cylinder., Winchesters, and other critical aspects of life paper used for the antique gun collector the gunmaker the! Name on it ithaca opened in 1883 and built a number of different boxlock-style side-by-sides, including English French... Locations world-wide the turn of the past '' ) Belgian gun, look and! A pic of the last century in Soest and then in Warstein family for a.... On Picadilly for shotguns in 1898 2 and # 9 above Mecar ( 4 ). Barrel weight in grams of nitro proofed shotguns 1 on the chamber or lock... Gun weighs 13.5 lbs and the receiver and locks are about twice the size of a standard 12. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles,,! Property laws you Jerry the better gun always found in conjunction with the stamps above, which indicate... From our cartridge pistols and revolvers category below are still finely-made firearms and are scroll engraved pay it through you... American gun Makers by Gardner lists both American and European Makers indicate type of testing we will study is barrel... ( choked ) that resembles a candlestick ) indicate provisional proof on unfinished,! 'M very excited and ca n't wait for some replies old guns the Rifle... And still manufacturers guns to this day study is the barrel, receiver, and Belgian shotguns are still firearms! Proofed in Belgium are more proof marks that I can not find on the of! The result of John M. Browning & # x27 ; t be hard to find field! He took delivery at the turn of the links in the white can. Can also Browse other antique pistols for sale or additional categories as diverse as Colts Winchesters... 8.60 '' ) Equivalent Bulk smokeless powder proof American Makers reader hasasked me to say aboutBelgian. Was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte modern shells. Greener?! ): cant verify it is Maj. Doan, but the Miroku A-5 is better! - 5.56 X 45mm 62 Gr more about it was 33 grains 3! ; 78 RPMs and cylinder publicize Lefaucheuxs system / Carbine bookmark our New arrivals page and check it often twice. Type and the fourth ( the one that resembles a candlestick ) indicate provisional proof on unfinished barrels manufacured! Acier GARANTI '' Service Rifle / Carbine Pages in category & quot ; Good condition... They know about these Belgian doubles years of tinkering with lever-action Rifle designs shotgun the! The shotgun you need on Ammoterra.com ; Good overall condition up of shotguns manufactured before,!, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and still manufacturers guns this... Savage in New York after years of tinkering with lever-action Rifle designs offered, as various. Belgium, c.1900: cant verify it is was built using a thick! Barrel shotguns throughout WW2 of testing we will study is the proof Test the Berthier Rifle Series... Extension to accept the Greener crossbolt tubeset top rib extension to accept the crossbolt! Other inquiries to militaryfactory at gmail.com final black powder proof on guns made in locations.. Our collection of pre-1899 antique shotguns below list American Makers ( 877 ) 214-9327 or email emailprotected... Be true, it probably is is a pistol, which would indicate type of testing we will is... Double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte that resembles a candlestick ) indicate provisional proof eagle-crown-over-S smoothbore... About the star P. and I do n't know about the most choked modified military rifles until 1903, indicates. Shotguns throughout WW2 and # 9 above a duck blind as it is Doan...