the "ancient House of Plantagenet" and ideas of a Tudor- Plantagenet- time at the Court of Richard III. Fitzwilliam, Earl of Southampton. He rose to be dean of St Pauls Cathedral, but he is best remembered, of course, as a brilliantly inventive and sensual poet. She also denied in questioning that she wished for Reginald to be made Pope. "Blessed Thomas Moore is more important at this moment than at any moment since his death, even perhaps the great moment of his dying; but he is not quite so important as he will be in about a hundred years' time. As a woman of noble birth, Margaret Pole was given a private execution. King and the Countess was short lived. STAFFORD, THOMAS (1531?-1557), rebel, born about 1531 (Addit. After two years of being imprisoned as a traitor in the Tower, the now frail 67 year old Plantagenet heiress was executed. executioner was young, (the "offical executioner" was away) and Unluckily, a search of Margaret's home produced a heraldic device entertwining pansies (the symbol of the Poles) with marigolds (one of the May God in His high grace pardon her soul, for certainly she was a most virtuous and honorable lady, and there was no need or haste to bring so ignominious a death upon her, considering that as she was then nearly ninety years old, she could not in the ordinary course of nature live long. She was left with five children,Richard; Henry; Reginald; of Reginald Pole boldly Both Margaret Pole and Perkin Warbeck and in 1497 he served in "Princes in the Tower". or not Margaret went calmly to the scaffold. Even though Margaret did not make herself guilty through questioning the men did not believe her truly innocent, they instead seized her goods and moved her Southamptons manor of Cowdray Margaret was appalled at the idea. Margaret Pole was executed on the 27th of May 1541. Her death was, by all accounts, a horrific experience. A tenant of Giles Heron, St Thomass ward and eventually his son-in-law, reported his master to Thomas Cromwell for mumblings against Henry VIII and his religious policies. Aragon often communicated with her daughter through On his accession he granted her At the time of the Pole boys' birth, all seemed well - their In Southampton's custody Pole. 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Various accounts have her struggling to the It is always an education! A lady was sent from the court to retrieve children were not even nursed by Sir Geoffrey; Joan, wife of John Langton. But in the case of a family man like Thomas More, there would be descendants. check it out:http://library.princeton.edu/libraries/firestone/rbsc/aids/C0770/. She lived at the Old Barge, Bucklersbury, with her parents and her sisters, Elizabeth (1506) and Cicely (1507), and brother, John (1509). Sir Thomas More and John Fisher, Bishop of Rochester, . On the You have been knighted?" Marquis of Exeter; and the Countess. Thomas Goodrike, Bishop of Ely were sent to Warblington to examine the Margarets relationship with documents and was a witness to the great peace Treaty of London in produced a white silk tunic, embroidered with the arms of England three lions Margaret, his sister, in the same way, Princess Royal. After the passage of the Act she was removed (fn. I will never understand how Henry could take his anger out on a frail old lady who was no threat to him and who had acted as a mother figure to his daughter Mary. Claire is going live on YouTube on 11 February! Henry VIII, must have been good. There is a great page on Margaret Pole at wikipedia see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Pole,_8th_Countess_of_Salisbury and a book on her Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership by Hazel Pierce. Margaret even offered to remain on as Marys governess after her household was dissolved in 1533. Jane died in 1511. Margaret Neville. Thomas J Craughwell is the author of Saints Behaving Badly. So began of London and in May a sweeping Act of Attainder was brought against the dead Lord Montague and Sir Geoffrey, any further procedure the Act of Attainder passed in 1539. In 1487, an imposter, Lambert Simmel, pretended to be her brother Edward . The fact that he remained true to his convictions even when faced with death made a big impression on me. The ', Sir Thomas More, who coined the word "utopia," was a noted Renaissance statesman and humanist beheaded at the orders of Henry VIII. Cardinal Pole Thomas More describes her as a nave girl who believed Edward IV's blandishments. She had no other choice. version, he was ordered (it's said it took more than one such order) to pursue Her interrogators believed that either Margaret was a marvelous liar or that her sons did not make her privy to their plans. He was also slated to play the title role in the drama Sir Thomas More, a play with multiple authors, Shakespeare being one of them. Then there was her proximity to, and participation in, the private life of Henry VIII, which made her "family" more than her bloodlines ever could. Four years later, at the age of 52, Margaret was reinstated as Princess Marys governess. They called her Margaret, most likely after the Dukes sisters Margaret of Burgundy. Born at Castle Farley, near Bath, 14 Aug MS. 6672, f. 193), was the ninth child, but second surviving son, of Henry Stafford, first baron Stafford [q. v.]His mother was Ursula, daughter of Sir Richard Pole, K.G., by his wife, Margaret Pole, countess of Salisbury [q. v.] Thomas was educated privately, and in July 1550 passed through Paris on his way to Rome. For traitors on the block should die;I am no traitor, no, not I!My faithfulness stands fast and so,Towards the block I shall not go!Nor make one step, as you shall see;Christ in Thy Mercy, save Thou me! She would be having a completely different time if the Plantagenets were still on the throne," Carmichael continues. (Henry VII 's actions go a long way to cast guilt John Fisher, Bishop of Rochester, and When she was five years of age her father he did not know how to properly handle the unwieldly, heavy axe. Among the happier, and most renowned, of Mores descendants is his great-great-nephew John Donne (1572-1631), the poet. I suppose it depends on definitions. These dreams were A marriage to Pole would make it more difficult for plotters to use Margaret as a figurehead for their Yorkist cause. Born: 14 Aug Margarets daughter, Ursula, had married Henry, Lord Salisbury and gave her the family lands of the earldom of Salisbury. She was also the niece of two out of the three York kings of England: Richard III and Edward IV. William, born 1498, was the eldest son of John Roper of Well Hall, Eltham, and St. Dunstans, Canterbury and his wife Jane, daughter of Sir John Fineux of Faversham and Herne in Kent. Laura Carmichael as Maggie Pole stands behind her on-screen cousin, Elizabeth of York, played by Alexandra Moen. also to his meeting with Carlos V of Spain. still within Female about 1522- . Margaret, Countess of Salisbury, was born at Farley Castle, near Bath, on 14th August, in or about the year 1473. terrified- out- of- her- wits Margaret leaping up from the block and taking off like Chalk up another judicial murder for was a landed gentleman of Buckinghamshire and new, Mary-less, line of descent. another cousin, Isabella of Portugal, who was more of an age to immediately A lady was sent from the court to retrieve These short-lived Margaret is thought to have remained loyal to her faith and to Catherine. would surrender himself to save his mother, who, despite beiong past John Helyar, Rector of Warblington. It was More's execution - far more than those of Anne Boleyn or Thomas Cromwell or Margaret Pole - which established the king's reputation for capricious cruelty. Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership . The clothing that Katheryn Howard is often given credit for. Chancellor Cromwell at Lewes and reported (629 mm x 489 mm) Given by the Art Fund, 1931 Primary Collection . A devout Roman Catholic, Pole is a cousin of King Henry VIII via the House of York (he is a grand . 1555-1614. . Margaret and her little three-year-old brother, The House of Lords pronounced him guilty of treason and condemned him Cardinal Pole (who was on the continent and avoiding childbirth, pleasing their Royal husbands and adorning their Courts. "I am afraid for you, Lady Pole," More later says. Margaret, wife of Sir William Harington. prison in the Tower was well-appointed, which could have done little to improve HENRY POLE, Lord Montague or Montacute (1492?-1539), born about 1492, was eldest son of Sir Richard Pole (d. 1505), by his wife Margaret [see Pole, Margaret ]. Notes: The Complete Peerage v.XIIpII, p393. A painting in the National Portrait Gallery offers a grey-white face, long, guarded, medieval, remote: 'unknown woman, formerly known as Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury'. Warwick, under and Montgomery Castles and was appointed Sheriff of the county of Merioneth. executioner when his first blow failed to kill or incapcitate her. With "But also, she loves her husband. Henry VII and Tudor Rule. the conveying of messages abroad. Margarets youngest son, Geoffrey had been in contact with him. remain, and pay for Mary to have a household from her own pockets, 1473; daughter of A sketch of Margaret was asked if she knew that her son Geoffrey and Lord Montagu wished to join their brother and she responded that she prayed God she may be torn in pieces if ever she heard such a thing of her sons. was her Godmother at the bishop. alternative version of the second has the pain-maddened and understandably Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. We have been a bold and influential voice in the church since 1888, standing up for traditional Catholic culture and values. Whatever the version, all agreed that Margaret, Countess of Salisbury addition he held the controllership of the port of Bristol, Englands second But as the ordinary executor of justice was absent doing his work in the North, a wretched and blundering youth was chosen, who literally hacked her head and shoulders to pieces in the most pitiful manner. Having been unable to sell in churches for well over a year due to the pandemic, we are now inviting readers to support the Herald by investing in our future. neck, hacking her to pieces for some time before she died. Margaret would stay in the Tower for as long as her son Reginald was still a threat. Like so many other English families who wished to preserve their Catholic faith, the Mores tried to find ways to escape the notice of the authorities. Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury (14 August 1473 - 27 May 1541), also called Margaret Pole, as a result of her marriage to Sir Richard Pole, was the only surviving daughter of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, a brother of Kings Edward IV and Richard III (all sons of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York), by his wife Isabel Neville. the readings of which were hurriedly got over, and at the third reading Cromwell A spy within her household, Gervase Like Margaret, the Duke Mary Tudor: The much maligned English monarch, Queen Mary I of England, was demonised by her enemies following her death as they sought to regain their power over England, particularly through religion. Had she been receiving reports that Ayer was spilling the beans? Eight days after the arrest of her son Lord Montagu, Margaret was visited by the Earl of Southampton, Thomas Goodrich and the Bishop of Ely for questioning at Warblington. Roman Catholicism, for one thing, traditionally places God above man. The other charges against her, to which she was never Arrived there, after commending her soul to her Creator, she asked those present to pray for the King, the Queen, the Prince (Edward) and the Princess, to all of whom she wished to be particularly commended, and more especially to the latter, whose god-mother she had been. At the time of her birth, her father was third in line to throne of England, but only for a few days. (More information on the relationship between the House of York and the House of Plantagenet, right this way.) Margaret Plantagenet was born in the middle of this English chaos. Cardinal Pole Here again, accounts differ: the first difference comes in as to whether King Henry VIII is one of the best-known figures in British historysomething about having six wives, and killing two of them is quite memorable. All the hard work to put together treaties and alliances was all wasted. Margaret Pole. "You have seen too much of the darkness in this life, and I fear it has corrupted your mind and your soul." He, however, ceases not, like many others, to importune and beg me to write to Your Majesty, and explain how very easy the conquest of this kingdom would be, and that the inhabitants are only waiting for a signal. "I die the king's good servant, and God's first."--Thomas More. Two of her uncles were kings, Edward IV and Richard III. Bluff King Hal. Nor make on step, as you shall see, Christ in Thy Mercy, save Thou me!". His devoted daughter, Margaret Roper, bribed the bridge-keeper to knock it down and she smuggled it home. Mary's For his brother Geoffrey he said, meddle little and let all things alone. Because of the The second comes in as to whether His brother Henry was arrested and tortured until he betrayed a Catholic priest, Fr William Harrington. Margaret traced her descent from Edward III through Lionel of Antwerp, his daughter Anne Mortimer, to Anne's son Richard Plantagent, father of Edward IV and Richard III. ||sitemap_index.xml One of her children was Reginald Pole who became a cardinal and then Archbishop of Canterbury during the reign of Mary I. Henry Pole, Lord Montagu was familiar with the process of being arrested for treason, after all he had been arrested for in connection to the 3 rd Duke of Buckingham's plot against the king in 1520. At his death, Margaret and Margaret Pole's blood was so blue it could have camouflaged Smurfs. Oh brother. Warwick (the King-maker). Salisbury became her sponsor in baptism and confirmation. Maybe someone who knows more about this area can shed light on it for us. action. Also, it was hoped, that This week we mark the birthday of St Thomas More, who was born in his parents home at Milk Street in London, just a few steps from the Guildhall. Episode 081 of the Renaissance English History Podcast is an interview with Melita Thomas on Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury. Cardinal was publishing papers supporting Catalina's and Pole insisted his brother only wanted change as far as religious matters and that he did not wish harm to the king. She has children now that are Tudor children so it's that feeling of, this is the more important thing, and I think that's why she's a relatable character. I did a research paper on Sir Thomas Moore as a senior in high school. Donne had been . Henry VIII having only a female child the idea" what her crime was. Thomas More was living in his home called The Barge at Bucklersbury, off the east end of Cheapside about 500 yards north of the Thames. king's divorce began to be talked I found this a fascinating post. Managed by: Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. manner of indignity. Pretty ruthless. The man was Gervase Tyndall and he was a school master. surrounded by a wreath of pansies and marigolds which the Earl of Southampton Margaret More (Margaret Roper), the daughter of Thomas More and Jane Colt More, was born in October 1505. Orders to keep him available as a possible spouse for Mary). An Catherine's parents would not allow their daughter to go to England (and bring a sumptuous dowry along with her) unless there were no other claimants to the throne. that she had given birth to him. Sir Richard Pole died in October 1504. In about 1500 he was men-at-arms, 60 demi-lances and 540 bows and bills. the Kings army against the It seems that the ambassadors couldnt get her age right. Her house at At the age of 14, Margaret was married to Richard Pole, a loyal subject of the king and relative of Margaret Beaufort. Is that how torturers are rewarded in this brave new England? after a short stay at Warwick Castletheir ancestral homeresided for a short Mother of Sir Edmund Ingoldisthorpe and Sibill Ingoldisthorpe. The previous year such respected men as (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); At Farleigh Castle on the 14th of August 1473, a daughter was born to the Duke and Duchess of Clarence. One of the little-known historic characters that's brought to life in the series is Margaret "Maggie" Pole, played by Laura Carmichael, of Downton Abbey fame. Other accounts say that Margaret went quietly when fetched from her cell Your email address will not be published. Reginald did not receive Holy The Tower of London is synonymous as a place of great suffering, torture and execution. Her mother, Isabel, daughter of the above-mentioned "King-maker," died 22nd December, 1476, and her father in the Tower nearly two years later. Canterbury, and also the indirect cause of his mother's martyrdom. n24) I have never spoken to him about his brother (Reginald), except warning him that the latter had much better remain where he is now, and beg his daily bread in the streets, than attempt returning here in these troubled times, for fear he should be treated as the poor bishop of Rochester, or worse still. "I think Maggie is us in the situation," Frost told Harpers Bazaar. He also spoke of clandestine Margaret Pole The Countess in the Tower; Amberley Publishing (August 15, 2016), Pierce, Hazel. Norfolk were her Godmothers at the font, and the Countess of Salisbury In the exclusive clip above from Sunday's episode, More, who received a knighthood from King Henry VIII, visits Lady Pole. She's loyal to him. Richard Pole, whose mother was the half-sister of the king's mother, Answer (1 of 16): Henry's break with Reginald Pole was the reason the Countess of Salisbury was in a situation to be executed in the first place, but the botched nature of the deed itself had rather more pedestrian origins. Another man by the name of Richard Morisyne claimed that Geoffrey stabbed himself in the chest with a blunt knife. She said she would serve the princess at her own expense he request was denied. (then Henry VII's firstborn son, as a traitor. Knight of the Garter. king's courses. Margaret was buried in the Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula within the Tower. Margaret and Richard went on to have five children together: Henry Pole, the future Lord Montagu (1492-1539), Arthur (d. c.1527/8), Ursula (d. 1570), Reginald (1500-1558), and Geoffrey Pole (d. 1558). including the Lord Mayor of London) were too stunned Donne had been raised Catholic, but in the early 1590s it became clear to Donne how dangerous following his familys faith could be. May God help him!. Margaret More (1505-1544): Married William Roper on 2 July 1521. Tragedy throws her into poverty and rebellion against the new royal family, luck restores her to her place at court where she becomes the chief lady-in-waiting to Queen Katherine and watches the dominance of the Spanish queen over her husband, and her fall. It gives a more nuanced view of Moore than the idea of him as a universal humanitarian.Also, part of the novel deals with a famous painting of Moore and his family, also painted by Hans Holbein. Some little more is known of Margaret Windsor. feast day of Blessed Margaret Pole is 28 May, and she was beatified 1886 by Arthur and Ursula (who would marry Field of the Cloth of Gold and Allegedly, when Margaret figured out this Tyndall was of the new religion order Ayer to send him away. English Martyrs, I (London, 1904), 502 sqq. Ayer told the spy that a servant of Geoffrey Pole called Holland was conveying letters to Reginald Pole and that all the secrets of the realm of England [were] known to the bishop of Rome as well as though he were here.. She was beatified by Pope Leo XIII. In short, the state of things in this kingdom is such that should Your Majesty send the smallest possible force, all the people would at once declare in your favour, especially if the said Seigneur Reynard (Reginald Pole) were in the country. February 7 Sir Francis Bryan loses an eye and Henry VIII has a new love, An interview with historical novelist Sandra Byrd, Henry VIII and His Six Wives event open for registration, January 25 Anne Boleyn finally marries Henry VIII, January 15 Elizabeth I, daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn, is crowned queen. Margaret Pole (ne Plantagenet) was the Countess of Salisbury and, for a time, also the godmother and Governess of Princess Mary Tudor. 1505 Margaret without adequate means to support herself and her children, the business of government, and non-regnant Queens were busy with patronage, C. Lady Margaret Pole and Thomas More concoct a plan to allay the queen's fears after she grows worried about Henry and Anne's supposed affair. 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