Heres a good article to read that B.B. Is this dropping air pressure normal or is my rifle defective? The Bug Buster looks like it would fit the dove tailed receiver, perfectly. But you might miss the brain, so be prepared for follow-up shots. Unfortunately, I couldnt find the mailing address to send my check to. My C9 was the rifle I cut my teeth on before shooting with a team and earning my expert rating with cartridge riflesthats right, I started with a Sheridan .20 caliber pellet gun and jumped straight into competitive shooting. But Im guessing that even that wont solve your problem. is too close to call, and each rifle will differ by more than that. I dont want to scratch up the black-on-brass finish. im still trying to get a benjamin 392, ive checked almost all pawn shops around 30 miles from my house, my parents wont drive me to any gun shows, and they wont put any credit card numbers on the internet for fear that someone will hack it and take their money. For more on how many types of air gun sights are out there and which one is suitable for you, see this post. I was thinking that if I wanted to lower the elevation, wouldnt I just have to apply a similar pressure on the sight?, seeing as it has that same pressure otherwise. Reviewed in the United States on October 14, 2021. I just bought and received a Benjamin 392 after reading this blog. Im not gettin desperate, but a .22 rifle just is too dangerous to casually shoot around the house, and that means my shotgun is out of the question. I cant wait to get the premiers to see if they do better than the daisys (what do u think of the daisys?). You have to get the 392! If I pump it 8 times or so and let it sit for two or three minutes until I fire, it loses all it's power. It sounds like you have stripped the screw threads from the holes. Try the Beeman .20 caliber Field Target Special pellet. The gun isnt made to be sighted at 10 feet or even 10 yards. Yes, the 392 is too hard for a 14 year-old, unless hes a bodybuilder. I can practice in my yard without endangering anybody. It has already happened in other Crosman guns, so dont wait too long to get your gun. My wadcutters I had been using before were more deformed but more accurate at every distance and power variation! If you appreciate quality American products, these two certainly fit the bill. For instance, how about the Benjamin 342? Thanks for the help pre-purchase and with the sight question! should i worry about it? You can use this gun for target shooting, plinking, pest control, and small-game hunting. Pyramids manual on the 392, which you directed me to, apparently added that info to the online manual and it wasnt well proof read because here is how the last sentence of the lateral directions reads: To make the pellet hit further right on the target, loosen the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the right side of the sight (Fig. Thank you Mr B. BB,If you dont pump the benji more than 3-4 times how loud will it be and what will the velocity be? 5. . Hey BB, I tried to type in that link, but in said the server could find it and to contact the web masterThats a little beyond my pc expertise. Thanks for the quick reply. My question relates to the article I read on penetration between domed pellets, round balls, and pointed pellets. They did fall below target but Id expect that being slightly heavier that the crosmans. The reason the B-Square mount doesnt get good reviews is because people dont install it correctly. I have recently purchased a Benjamin Sheridan 392 and like Chris above am doing most of my shooting in the 15 to 20 yard range. Is that Normal for this gun ? Privacy Policy | Which front screws do I tighten and loosen to get the aim more to the right? I don't want the synthetic stock option. craigslist.com has no towns in the area that my parents will drive to, and garage sales are also bereft of bb guns of any kind. Have done this for three years now. Unable to add item to List. I write 30-60 comments every day, seven days a week, so I had to learn this trick to survive. The groups are nice and tight, just in the wrong place. Help me to make the right choice because compared with your knowledge of this product Im relatively clueless. My aging eyes cant abide the iron sights anymore. or is there a kit i can get? . Yes, store your gun with one pump of air. Could you suggest any repair shops in the vicinity of Oklahoma for these repairs? The variable pump feature provides from 500-800fps. Anyway, I let my practical side won out. Many inexpensive peep sights ate mostly plastic, so charge on! Brass barrels dont get dirty, which is why they never need to be cleaned. If thats not for you, I recommend a spring gun. Similar . please help me b.b. This rifle definitely brings me back. B.B.Your last two paragraphs were interesting, I was all set to trade my old 312 (it needs some work on it, after all of these years) in on a new 392, it seems to be well liked, (the 392s) by the comments Ive read in this column. Ive had the best results using crosman ammo. You have many questions. I plan on getting a Silver Streak 5mm in due time. Whenever I make a circular hole for the peep sight and I look through it the hole seems to distort, like the light is stretching to the upper right and lower left. I wont dissapoint once I get a few stories. (Im thinking maybe the 397 due to smaller pellet). Let us know. Does anyone have any details on just how to best remove the factory rear sight? The buttstock is built far to high to get any kind of sight picture. No airgun is better (in this price range at least)!!!! . They look like they have Weaver bases (a cross-key to attach to a cross-slotted base) and they can only fit a Weaver or Picatinny base. New, All-weather synthetic Stock and fore grip Monte Carlo styling I adjusted the stop-screw up, and that helped out a good bit. Hard Air Magazine covers the whole airgun community and provides visitors with a constantly changing variety of news and airgun test reviews. You can find him at- http://home.joimail.com/~sifu_mcconahy/index.html. As for the hole size, a wise man once said you can make many small cuts, but nothing can put material back. This gun doesnt require any accessories at all. I havent heard that the Crosman Intermounts were not good, but Ill let our other readers comment on them. Now, you ask if B-Square scope rings will clamp onto a 3/8 dovetail. He rights a daily blog at https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/ every Mon-Fri where alot of good people answer questions, share information, etc. You must cancel it by always putting your shooting eye in the same place the same as with open sights. I found it its a B-Square Blue Streak Weaver Mount w/Rings. The trigger also has sharp edges that could have been eased for comfort. could this wreck or bend or cave in the barrel after time? Ill get pellgun oil somehow (i might order it if i have to). One look at the IZH 61 you suggested and I got two words ( more or less?!? Part shortages is causing numerous manufacturers to alter their original intentions. Do you mean knocking off the factory edge of the rifleing down a bit, or smoothing it completely! Benjamin 392 Pumper Efficiency Mods - YouTube 0:00 / 22:33 Benjamin 392 Pumper Efficiency Mods 8,232 views May 20, 2016 107 Dislike Share Save Possum Living 23.9K subscribers How to shoot the. Would I be able to keep the Talon charged? is there anything im missing that should be important? I bought some Benjamin Discovery 14.3 hollow point pellets with the gun and find that they indeed do not expand at all when shooting them into the water bottles. However, I find for me that it is easier to grip the stock of the gun than the top of the barrel, meaning that a scope would not be in the way. first 8 or 10 pumps max? Or should I try out the Crosman 800x? thanks for helping me out with it!Insomniac. What about putting a piece of plastic over the top of the rear sight, using it as the peep sight then? This being the case I am considering mounting a bug buster 2 on my rifle to replace the williams peep. You would be very proud to own one. I do not recommend scoping this rifle! the izh 61 gets the air pressure from cocking the side lever, right? I do know that extra-heavy .20 and .22 pellets are not as accurate as medium-weight pellets. Am I doing something wrong? Take it from someone who grew up behind the iron curtain, secretly watching John Wayne movies and dreaming of the open range. Yesterday, one of my coworkers brought in a older 22 caliber Benjamin that he wanted me to research on the internet. with medium weight pellets. but the hand pump has two holes drilled into it with splinters stickin out, are these for screws to hold the handle on the gun? If the 392 will do the job it would be a lot easier for me. I have tested a steroided silver streak, which is very similar to the 392. I sight in for 20 yards, then learn how much to hold under when the target is closer. Dot sights are just as accurate as scopes. Even then the scope gets in the way of pumping. That being said, Im a scope fan and have found the intermount setup to be sturdy enough. for answering all my questions. Too, what is the going rate to have the Texas Repairman bring these old guns back to working condition instead of me doing it? Depending on your answer I will decide to buy the Talon SS or go back to a CO2 model. Why We Like The Benjamin 392. Fortunately, airguns are sold by dealers like Pyramyd Air, but the combined volume of all airgun dealers is small compared to the big box stores. It was purchased brand new in 1972, when I was 13 years old. There isnt much difference between the two rifles today. Yes, it is blurry, but you dont align it in the traditional sense. Thats Velocity Outdoor Product Manager Phillip Guadalupe above showing us the gun at that time. As such, I packed it up, and back to PyramidAir it went. Someone who spends as much time on the internet as you do should certainly have stumbled onto them by now. I was now getting 2 inch groupings! Smoothing it out. Mine was probably taken by a U.S. restaurant inside team that steals CC slips. At five pumps they tumble inside and flatten side-ways without exiting (all at 15 yards). When something is put in quotes and isnt a direct quote, it means that everything inside the quotation marks is untrue. so ive got eight pumps worth of air in the gun and the pump handle is open. I would defeat my purpose if it was louder than a 22LR. A brass barrel can be ruined by cleaning, or last more than a hundred years by just shooting lead pellets. i am having a very difficult time sighting the gun in. Thanks alot thats a relief i thought it was broken their for a second thanks bb. You have been patient and have tried the sources I suggested. PS don't for get the daily blog at/blog//. It may not be legal to hunt them with an airgun. How does the Gamo Shadow 1000 compare to the 392 in accuracy with open sights(if u discount the fact that i dont know the correct way to hold and shoot springers)? The RWS Diana 34 is hardly a small rifle. I had to keep aligning it. 2 more photos This gun has a grooved brass barrel and is designed for accurate target shooting lead the pellet. Ive used it on my SS in the past and its fine. per stroke. Thanks, Thomas. B.B. Flexible Coating From warehouse floor paint to metal railings, COMMAND offers resistance to cracking and peeling while bending, moving, expanding or contracting. These are surprisingly inaccurate pellets that group two, three or four pellets together (1-2 inch groups) and send two or three away from the group (2-3 inches away from main group). If youre looking for a well made, affordable gun for pest control or just plinking around, you cant go wrong with the Benjamin 392. The 3-9 will reach out farther with precision. I know what Pellgunoil is. This gun is a great choice for target shooting or for dealing with annoying pests in your yard. However, an older 392 manual does contain the correct info. I have tried quite a few prototype peep sights and I wasnt getting very good results with them (loose, wobbly, etc.). First, it's very hard-hitting, especially for a multi-pump rifle. The Benjamin 392 Bolt Action Variable Pump Air Rifle is a multi-pump air rifle. It'll probably be sometime next week when I get it - will post some pictures, targets, etc when I can. Shooting outdoors in Minnesota in the winter is a cold proposition. do you have to use a scope with the 392 sheridan? Just bolt it on and thats it. Whatever pellet you choose has to be accurate. i got it back in the early 80s.As a kid i have killed more animals with it then you can imagine,My favorite pellet was the promethus bullet,it was a lite pellet at the time they were black. Pumping action is hard for shooters with weak arms, Pumping action can be tedious experience at some points. Mine has been charged for 6 years now. There is both a cylinder and a piston in the chamber. Rick is another guy who has been doing this for several decades, and hes very methodical in his work. Or more specifically, how high should the peep hole be from the (top?) Also Ive heard good things about the new predator polymer tipped hollow points. i cant even shoot this well with my .22 firearm!!! Dont touch the scope when handling the rifle. http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.html. Then that same year, with some new updates, it was relaunched as the Benjamin 397 and 392. Household oils as in 3-in-1. You can either buy them from Pyramyd Air or some Wal Marts sell them. But just a tad of oil mind you. Now Velocity Outdoor has announced that this new model is in production and has started shipping from the factory. The stock of Benjamin 392 is made of American hardwood so it can withstand stresses, shocks, loads, impacts, and abrasion in daily life. You are welcome to post questions or comments on the current blog where literally thousands of people willingly give you the benefit of their knowledge and experience. There are no parts unless you make them. Those pellets with polymer tips are not as accurate as the pellets I keeps mentioning the JSB Exact domed and the Beeman Kodiak. Despite reading the reviews on the Daisy 22 SG, and the Benjamin 392, Im stuck on which one I should choose. The item has been discontinued or is no longer available Due to our Pricing Policy. This air rifle is very quiet compared to my RWS Diana 45 spring-piston and seems to hit much harder. Too, I have some old Benjamin Franklins one will hold air but the pump level pops down and the other makes a hiss after you pump it and will not hold air. But I keep lingering over the spring pistons. The sight of Benjamin 392 is anopen sight with a fixed front sight. Try my recommendation before doing anything else. Finally, the rifle will not hold air for longer than a few minutes. This isnt common, however, you are shooting very close. I continued to fire my rifle, varying the distance and the amount of pumps of my 392. For example, as an Amazon Associate, HAM earns from qualifying purchases if you buy by clicking-through from that link. These used to be different guns made by different companies. The Bug Buster is 4 power, the Bug Buster 2 is 6. First five shots were horrible. I was appalled at the horrible accuracy of these pellets! Yes, the POI should move with each additional pump. Just received my purchased 397 and it is a sturdy rifle that Im sure going to enjoy. Like everything else, metal expands and contracts with temperature and barometric variances (sp???). Just got my new Benjamin 392 from Pryamid air today. Secondly, the pumping action is really hard and is not suitable for a person with weak arms. tried the Name/URL but have better success getting through under the anonymous identity thing. Your rifle should never be pumped more than 10 strokes. Benjamin Foster; Walden University CAEX 6065. d2.docx. A 312 is virtually identical in power and accuracy to a 392. In order to load the pellet, first, you put the gun on the safe, push the bolt handle up and pull it back to open the bolt. Another question out in the field, how long can one keep the 392 pumped up? I forgot to ask you what caliber Talon SS should I get and what scope would you recommend ? The Benjamin 392 requires very little maintenance: You only need to use a light coat of Crosman PellgunOil in the barrel to prevent rust. 3. They make the gun too hard to pump. I have owned and tested a Steroid Streak. BB, this my last question I promise. I have number 142 of the 500 that are going to be made. If you have the money, I recommend either one of the Sheridans or the Benjamin 392. Having never seen a hardwood pellet gun, and with the looks of it I have to have one. Heres something, the barrel of my 392 had black paint in the end that I removed with q-tips and nail polish remover ok Ive got plenty of time on my hands. thanks! I guess you can tell Im a big fan of this air rifle! It will be a little louder that a loud hand clap. Tell me about the Logan pump. After all, isn't that one of the advantages of a pneumatic over a springer? Is circular better than square? fps? Yes to the dive cylinder, no to the hand pump because of the effort it requires when you go above 2,500 psi. Here is what you want IF your rifle was made in the last 5 years: /product/air-venturi-williams-64-peep-sight?a=5, It will be interesting to see how this gun does with the Williams Sight. Because the intermounts place the scope forward, my suggestion would be long scope for this gun or one with plenty of eye relief, perhaps a pistol scope. Ive never used a 20 cal gun before and wasnt sure if it had the same impact as the .22. My top pick with your budget is Beemans HW30. Well, I havent tested the Sierra Pro, so I really cant say. I think you are confused. Last. I removed the factory rear sight and added a Williams peep sight, took the rifle outside and proceeded to punch bulls-eyes. The forearm has a very pronounced beavertail swelling where the hand grabs to pump the rifle. I would call Crosman and ask their technical people. Then I take and clean the mop off and dry the bore with a stroke or two. The 392 looks like it might be my next rifle for pest removal. Thjen cock it and shoot again without pumping or loading another pellet. Would you give me a description of barrel dwell in regards to heavier pellets? Try it! i look forward to your advice. Juddson. Will that work too or should I get some pellgunoil? Like, say mailing a check? The Blue Streak and 392 are very equivalent. Most important how loud is it? Merry Christmas. Both scopes are ideal for me since I usually stick to shooting squirrel and plinking beer cans. Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated. 4.4 out of 5 stars 9 product ratings Expand: Ratings. Thomas, It happenned again!?!? It seemed to be just the right combination of price, accuracy and power for my needs; mostly target shooting for fun, not competition, but weve got a pretty pesky raccoon problem here, and it sounds like the 392 will do the trick when needed. thx for all the help, too, and, ironicaly, ur help really helped me. Pumps six through eight will be harder, but you dont always need them. Owners manul says nothing about cleaning the bore. I had never seen or heard of a Benjamin Sheridan until a couple of months ago. Get Crosman Pellgunoil. First try oiling the seals and remember to always store the gun with a pump of air in it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When you ask, ask whether the 392 parts fit. Anyways, I do have a questionThe bolt on my new 392 rotates freely instead of locking down. Chris. I think ill buy this first for plinking until i can force myself to save the money forthe benjamin 392. Five pumps is usually the most accurate spot for a Benjamin, by the way. Hey BB, tried the cut and paste to no availe. Push the bolt handle forward into its position. I plan on using the open sight and not mounting a scope on this rifle.It did need some cleaning up from the box, the metal needed a good rub down and I lightly oiled the stock and rubbed it down and now it is beautiful. Pyramyd Air provides it as a service to their customers, but Crosman will not recognize it. The Benjamin Models 397 and the 392 have roots dating back to 1949. The flat heads mar too easy even with the correct driver. As far as pest (squirrel) control goes, and assuming an identical-to-comparable level of shooter accuracy between guns, what is a better bet: a higher FPS .177, or a lower FPS .22 ? Ive shot a vintage Sheridan he resealed, and he did a great job. Thanks for tirelessly putting up with us airgunners. I spoke with at Crosman told me that pumping takes 25 lbs. Whether they will improve that much I dont know. No, you should not put the muzzle on the ground and then cock the rifle with the stock. However, that doesnt mean that its strong. So if you are schrunched way down on the elevation, the erector tube spring may be compressed. Hold it on top of the barrel at that point. I would like to give out a Salute ( remember Hee_Haw?!?!? You literally have to have the top of your cheek bone resting on the stock to properly see over the sites which is not comfortable at all. I just purchased and installed a peep sight on my 397. The receiver is steel and has a longer scope rail than the pneumatic, so it is much easier to scope. Theyre arent really any air rifle stores near me and Im really not that psyched about having to pay shipping and handling on a small tube of air rifle oil. At first, I thought these pieces were soldered to the barrel/pump cylinder and would have to remain. A couple more beginner questions: What is a more typical distance that people sight these guns it at? A 392/397 should be okay pumped up all the way for a day. Ive seen one persons new 392LE destroyed by what Crosman deems Scope too heavy. The scope was mounted on the factory cut dovetail, and after a couple weeks, the whole barrel and breech broke off at the solder joint. You know, this is too good a topic not to do a posting. I think i might stick to the 392 pump or the izh 61. i want a consistent power, variable, pellet rifle that works in varying temps, with a bit more power. 6 pumps at 20 yards.25 shots to zero in,with open sights.This will do until Baker Airguns gets my scope mount to me.Nice feel and balance.Pumping is a chore, but I like the results. Pump on! If you mount the scope with short eye relief, the pellet loading action becomes the pain because the scope gets in the way while you do it. BB-Youre right as usual. I have stumbled upon them before, but i didnt really think id use them alot. That along with B.B. Though my very first, out of the box, groups were as tight as you said theyd be (shot at 10M), they were just a bit high and right. JSBs are pretty expensive too! It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. George is at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. Flip the gun on its back. Do you have these problems? and my mom thinks so too. 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